Good girl! Btw, I love the rain effect you’ve been using. It adds a nice bit of ambiance & texture without obscuring the picture.
Question: do child labor laws exist in this world? Or are those mitigated by the existence of magical girls?
To be fair, it seems like all the teens we’ve seen working (whether Holly or Cedar or Ivy; or to tbh even Leif) have adult supervision and/or support.
And, longrunners obviously further complicate the picture (something which I think has been discussed in part in a “…discusses a thing” comic).
But is there a minimum age limit before which children are not allowed to be employed?
I have to wonder if older (i.e., 14-17) magical girls are exempt from child labor laws, maybe because they burn out? I do get the impression that Holly, Ivy, and Kudzu in his prime are stronger than all the older mages except for Açaí. Ivy’s 17, right? In our world, you can do most work at 17, but standing on a crag in a hurricane, I have a hard time coming up with a better example of exactly what would NOT be allowed.
Considering Holly’s posting at the start of the comic, that is, her being seconded to a military unit, albeit one that was on a ‘low-stakes’ assignment, sort of implies that this is the case, or that the ‘age of majority’ is lower.
We also have to remember that this is a society that has been running with Magical Girls for centuries. A world where, IIRC, The First Generation acted in secret, and by the time the Next Generation cropped up, they had the social clout to make sure that the kiddles would be okay.
so much of being a Magical Girl in this setting is tied into the tropes being reality(Strong emotion bringing out new levels of power, that power frequently being activated in a do-or-die crisis, et cetera) that the actual governmental policy may be to, so long as they are acting in the common good, just let the Tykebomb keep on keeping on. That when they transgress the law, the law was wrong, if only in this situation, and to, when possible, aim them in the direction of Most Societal Good.
TL;DR Ivy is almost certainly not violating any child labor laws now, but there may have been some constitutional amendments to allow Ceannis to field the Humanoid Anti-Typhoon for the benefit of the continent.
Actually, I just went back over the mine arc, and apparently she’s fifteen. Not sure where I got seventeen.
Well, the mine arc did happen (in-universe) two years ago!
Based on what we’ve seen so far, I think that being employed as a “child magical girl” is most similar to being employed as a child actor IRL, in terms of what’s legal and how it functions.
1. It was discussed that Ivy is an exception. In most cases, they wait for the magical girl to mature, because, contrary to what you and Raen imply, magical girls get stronger with age, not weaker. Ivy will get stronger and Kale is only weak now because he has power-limiters.
Cal had it spot-on — this is why I keep drawing the parallels between Ivy’s experience as a teen magical first responder, and Cedar’s experience as a teen singer/actor! In both cases, they’re allowed to work — but there are legal limits on how many hours, requirements for their education, and a range of other rules designed to protect them from being exploited.
(…Which doesn’t mean the rules always work. Consider Ivy blowing off her classes.)
Yeah, I remember Coco told her off for that. I have to wonder about general classes, though? After all, magical girls probably ought to be able to understand word problems.
Actually, when do magical girls tend to come into their powers? The only one we’ve actually seen come into theirs was Cedar, fourteen, but he was deliberately setting himself back, so presumably he “should” have come into his powers earlier.
Also, am I correct in thinking that cisgender boys/men don’t object in the slightest to being called “magical girls”?
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Good girl! Btw, I love the rain effect you’ve been using. It adds a nice bit of ambiance & texture without obscuring the picture.
Question: do child labor laws exist in this world? Or are those mitigated by the existence of magical girls?
To be fair, it seems like all the teens we’ve seen working (whether Holly or Cedar or Ivy; or to tbh even Leif) have adult supervision and/or support.
And, longrunners obviously further complicate the picture (something which I think has been discussed in part in a “…discusses a thing” comic).
But is there a minimum age limit before which children are not allowed to be employed?
I have to wonder if older (i.e., 14-17) magical girls are exempt from child labor laws, maybe because they burn out? I do get the impression that Holly, Ivy, and Kudzu in his prime are stronger than all the older mages except for Açaí. Ivy’s 17, right? In our world, you can do most work at 17, but standing on a crag in a hurricane, I have a hard time coming up with a better example of exactly what would NOT be allowed.
Considering Holly’s posting at the start of the comic, that is, her being seconded to a military unit, albeit one that was on a ‘low-stakes’ assignment, sort of implies that this is the case, or that the ‘age of majority’ is lower.
We also have to remember that this is a society that has been running with Magical Girls for centuries. A world where, IIRC, The First Generation acted in secret, and by the time the Next Generation cropped up, they had the social clout to make sure that the kiddles would be okay.
so much of being a Magical Girl in this setting is tied into the tropes being reality(Strong emotion bringing out new levels of power, that power frequently being activated in a do-or-die crisis, et cetera) that the actual governmental policy may be to, so long as they are acting in the common good, just let the Tykebomb keep on keeping on. That when they transgress the law, the law was wrong, if only in this situation, and to, when possible, aim them in the direction of Most Societal Good.
TL;DR Ivy is almost certainly not violating any child labor laws now, but there may have been some constitutional amendments to allow Ceannis to field the Humanoid Anti-Typhoon for the benefit of the continent.
Actually, I just went back over the mine arc, and apparently she’s fifteen. Not sure where I got seventeen.
Well, the mine arc did happen (in-universe) two years ago!
Based on what we’ve seen so far, I think that being employed as a “child magical girl” is most similar to being employed as a child actor IRL, in terms of what’s legal and how it functions.
1. It was discussed that Ivy is an exception. In most cases, they wait for the magical girl to mature, because, contrary to what you and Raen imply, magical girls get stronger with age, not weaker. Ivy will get stronger and Kale is only weak now because he has power-limiters.
2. There ARE special laws for long-runners and they were mentioned in comics, for example here: https://leifandthorn.com/comic/the-perennials-716/
Cal had it spot-on — this is why I keep drawing the parallels between Ivy’s experience as a teen magical first responder, and Cedar’s experience as a teen singer/actor! In both cases, they’re allowed to work — but there are legal limits on how many hours, requirements for their education, and a range of other rules designed to protect them from being exploited.
(…Which doesn’t mean the rules always work. Consider Ivy blowing off her classes.)
Yeah, I remember Coco told her off for that. I have to wonder about general classes, though? After all, magical girls probably ought to be able to understand word problems.
Actually, when do magical girls tend to come into their powers? The only one we’ve actually seen come into theirs was Cedar, fourteen, but he was deliberately setting himself back, so presumably he “should” have come into his powers earlier.
Also, am I correct in thinking that cisgender boys/men don’t object in the slightest to being called “magical girls”?
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